悬赏EN 71-1 2011条款7的问题..

peterxu

  EN 71-1 2011里的7.1有这么一段话In the following clauses, the location of the warnings is therefore indicated (on the toy itself, on the packaging, in the instructions for use, on an accompanying leaflet). Warnings which determine the decision to purchase the toy shall appear on the consumer packaging or be otherwise clearly visible to the consumer before thepurchase.

   我的理解是对玩具购买起决定作用的警告语需要指出警告语的位置,象choking hazard,strangulation hazard都会对玩具的购买起决定作用,那是不是都要指出警告语的位置呢??

% A! |- |# V2 \  7.1的最后一句话是 In the following sub-clauses a requirement, that a toy shall carry a warning shall mean that the warning shall appear on the toy itself.
    那following sub-clauses是不是也包括7.2呢??小部件警告语等都要出现在玩具上吗???

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zj983

跟着学习~~~

hewei

哈哈！領獎了！
問題一：choking hazard,strangulation hazard都会对玩具的购买起决定作用！不管警告語是在on the toy itself, on the packaging, in the instructions for use, on an accompanying leaflet。必須保證
$ _; I+ `& L' G* c' `) N# \2 ~# z6 |2 vclearly visible to the consumer before the　purchase.
$ s9 D  t9 C9 Y問題二：In the following sub-clauses a requirement, that a toy shall carry a warning shall mean that the warning shall appear on the toy itself.
整個這句話話的翻譯是：如下子條款的一個玩具必須出現警告語的要求，必須通過警告語出現在玩具自身上表示，
也就是說：如果條款中出現玩具必須需要一個警告語，那麼必須使用警告語在玩具自身上來表示。
$ D9 ^* K% v, u) E  y哈哈！記得給獎啊！

samli

7.2 The age warning shall be clearly legible at the point of sale of the product and shall appear
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这是否跟7.1最后一句话有冲突呢？因为7.2根本没有提到Small toys的概念，那是否就不存在由于尺寸而放不下该警告语的问题呢？
另外有一个字体大小的问题，在TSD指引内说到主机3mm，说明书其他的1.5mm。但是7.2的大小要求又在那里呢？7.4的不算。

wuwang

我的意见如下：
9 U/ o& G; b, e/ v- a$ k7.1 是对各种在产品，包装，说明书等上面的警告语位置的要求，而对消费者决定是否要购买此产品有决定性作用的警告语（如小物体等）应出现在产品包装或产品本身上比较显著的位置，并且要清晰易读。

hewei

引用第3楼samli于2011-07-12 15:35发表的  :
# z4 M! \3 g7 \- D  H0 R# }5 U7.2 The age warning shall be clearly legible at the point of sale of the product and shall appear
8 j: I' g6 V8 g# \either on the toy itself or on its packaging.
. [$ z1 W% j) p* x这是否跟7.1最后一句话有冲突呢？因为7.2根本没有提到Small toys的概念，那是否就不存在由于尺寸而放不下该警告语的问题呢？
) d7 h! G: K0 E3 ?* j6 Y另外有一个字体大小的问题，在TSD指引内说到主机3mm，说明书其他的1.5mm。但是7.2的大小要求又在那里呢？7.4的不算。

第一個問題：我覺得不沖突，最後一句話我的理解是：標准中有規定警告語在玩具(不包括包裝材料)上，則警告語必須貼在玩具產品上，
第二個問題：TSD這個要求無強制性，只是推薦性，
以上為個人觀點，無任何權威性!僅供參考!

tassx

The manufacturer shall mark the warnings in a clearly visible, easily legible and understandable and  accurate manner on the toy, on an affixed label or on the packaging. In addition, if appropriate, the  warnings shall be included in the instructions for use which accompany the toy.  警告语应在合适的地方 （It is not sufficient to place the warning(s) only on a display box.）并可见。
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In the following clauses, the location of the warnings is therefore indicated (on the toy itself, on the  packaging, in the instructions for use, on an accompanying leaflet). 为保证可见，因此指明某些物品（Clause 7.2-7.22）的警告语应标识在哪些地方（toy, package or both）。     
8 g2 z6 O- _6 J2 I0 S# EWarnings which determine the decision to purchase the toy shall appear on the consumer packaging or be otherwise clearly visible to the consumer before the purchase. 指令要求综合，进一步说明，虽然警告语已经在某些 toy 上，但要求可见，在  Clause 7.2-7.22 中某些 Warnings which determine the decision to purchase the toy （据 W 观察即为 7.2 与 要求同时包装与玩具上都要有警告语的 7.**）一定要可见，所以包装上也要有，不仅包装要有，还包括  in cases where the purchase is made on-line (e.g. internet) or by catalogue or by other means where the buyer does not have access to the toy  at the time of purchase.
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In the following sub-clauses，指  Clause 7.2-7.22。The age warning shall be clearly legible at the point  of sale of the product and shall appear either on the toy itself or on its packaging.  年龄警告语，向消 费者购买（或使用）之时传达信息，要可见。
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1 }4 |/ R6 g0 D/ q* `关于 font size，“……are expected to revisit the present standard requirements regarding visibility and  legibility of warnings.” said guidance，只是说打算修订，如果被修订，W 相信会对 Small toys 豁免 font  size 要求的。
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" R) |, R+ T- ^纯属个人理解，不具参考价值。