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引用第25楼milighost于2011-12-08 15:55发表的 :
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6 r& H7 e2 Z7 dI don't think your supplier will be fined. Only the final product manufacturer will be fined because it is the final product manufacturer's responsibility to request supplier to get wire harness approved by UL and use correct labels. And if your supplier is not a UL listed manufacturer, there's no chance for UL to fine it. 9 o" p2 }) p$ @. W7 J' _/ t
Correct your opinions as below:
7 G0 D- B+ j7 e1. Firstly, I don't fully agree with your opinions, Yep, the final/end product manufacturer can ask the cable and wire's supplier to attach the UL 764 or UL758 labels on its products, but there is a definite policy that, it's the responsibility of the wire&cable supplier to ship out its products with the UL labels attached, think it carefully, so that's why I mentioned in my e-mail that the VN for the label issues happened in the end products' manufacturer will be informed to the cable&wire suppliers;
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2. Secondly, in the end products manufacturer's FUS procedure, normally, I believe only UL R/C AWM is necessary, so in this case, no need that the cable&wire assembly must be approved by UL under the UL764(wiring harness procedure), and if the manufacturer of the cable and wiring assembly can provide the labels which provided by its supplier to the end products' manufacturer, and transderred to be confirmed by UL auditor, that also can be accepted if the UL auditor is not a fool, because this also comply with the UL traceability Manual's requirements;
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3. Thirdly, if the supplier is not a UL recognized, here, correct your points that "Listed", as to UL764 manufacturer only can be called UL recognized company, not listed, then in this case, we can trace to the wire&cable's supplier, not focus on the supplier of the wire&cable assembly, here, pls focus on the difference between the wire&cable and the wire&cable assembly, as we know, the poster has already told us that, the wire&cable is UL758 certified, just no UL label attached, so at this time, the VN will be transferred to the manufacturer of the cable&wire(UL758), not the manufacturer of the cable and wire assembly.- i- S( n4 i+ D* |9 v
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Finally, if the supplier of the cable& wire is not the UL R/C, then that's the responsibility of the end products' manufacturer, and in this case, that's totally another story...; o8 G/ x" Z, ]; y3 @: R
* i1 P2 [( {, c' [" _$ CAnd remind you here, only at the first time, this kind of VN can be ignored from the end products' manufacturer's side, but if this kind of VN recurred at the end products' supplier, that's also another story.../ L5 a; I0 H$ U( h$ v* N* B# o/ O
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Hopefully, that can help you to really understand UL's policy for the wire and cable factories, and also can let you know don't jump a conclusion as your will, unless you really know it deeply... |
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