7 |) d" k2 b' N, C, d# X+ e在我公司FUS PROCEDURE上原文如下: 0 u R, Q2 I8 n# y: J" J3 J1 d G E N E R A L0 O* m6 K* S# |) d8 U8 N8 e2 o/ _
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MARKING: + \/ W( ^4 t0 I. Z2 l. q2 e Recognized Company's name, factory identification (if applicable), and wiring harness diagram or diagram number or catalog designation on carton or container.: g# N: c* K' y& E' C
- t- K3 `2 q( c" ?% r 7 V5 R% w9 Z* H; M) ~. L3 R請問大家有沒有碰到如此問題?大家是如何處理的?既要讓UL工廠審核員滿意,又要工廠容易操作?: t2 ] X: b' d s
能否給個建議!/ }( m. o3 c6 g/ @/ i
謝謝了!作者: yangzhiqiou 时间: 2009-10-29 11:55
贴图纸的做法,不可理解作者: wangjb 时间: 2009-10-29 12:37
UL经常干让人不理解的事作者: jackshong 时间: 2009-10-29 12:38
可是這個上面的做法,是經過廣州和香港UL的原話答復! : L& H: T( [7 }我也是感覺到疑惑! & L3 w& J4 Z, l: I/ ^* w1 G) ^# _不知大家有無碰見如此情形?應該如何應對呢?作者: a049405 时间: 2009-10-29 15:32
是不是你们做认证的时候是有的?我们的供应该商的来料都没有这些要求啊?作者: okjun 时间: 2009-10-29 15:41
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Recognized Company's name, factory identification (if applicable), and wiring harness diagram or diagram number or catalog designation on carton or container." L2 b& c3 O8 F, I0 l+ {# G2 n8 u* ]7 W
5 Q& F6 R4 P' W5 a, f rC.廣州UL答復如下:(詢問的是同樣的問題) ! O8 |( G5 s- g2 F" N1 I原文如下: % b5 K7 d% D+ QFor you question, pls study Subject 764 (Wiring Harnesses (ZPFW2) FOLLOW-UP AND INSPECTION INSTRUCTIONS), and i think you can find all of your answers per below Clause L5 and L6. . _# p: e+ a' M2 d, r
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6 Y% y: V' X. h! r6 L: EL4 The Field Representative shall ascertain that all markings are provided in accordance with the requirements. & h# c& ~ r" G! o H8 M+ c; Q8 p/ G# |! m
L5 Each carton in which wiring harnesses are packed shall be marked or tagged to indicate the name of the manufacturer and shall include a diagram or equivalent description of the harnesses. . b* ?+ P6 p( _4 d7 D- q2 {
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L6 In lieu of the diagram or description, a part number (or equal) of the wiring harness, marked on the carton or tag carrying the wiring harness label is considered the equivalent of a harness diagram or description provided that the diagram or description of the harness identified by this part number is available to the Field Representative at the factories of both the harness manufacturer and the harness user.作者: okjun 时间: 2009-10-30 12:13
9 z- D: X d/ C, ?9 T" x q" b y& r你再看看广州的EMAIL里的列出的原文: 6 H: Z/ O% w- G% T9 \0 ~% tL6 In lieu of the diagram or description, a part number (or equal) of the wiring harness, marked on the carton or tag carrying the wiring harness label is considered the equivalent of a harness diagram or description provided that the diagram or description of the harness identified by this part number is available to the Field Representative at the factories of both the harness manufacturer and the harness user. ' M6 R1 I+ Q6 l大概翻译是:除了附图纸之外,也可以把产品型号标在外箱上。但这个编号必须在供应商和成品厂都能够有对应的图纸让UL现场代表进行检查。作者: okjun 时间: 2009-10-30 12:26
楼主,你是负责这一块的,把文件都没看懂,怎么跟别人讨论。如果UL人员有错,你现场指出来,比你现在指出要好。因为他们错已经犯下了,就不会轻易的认错,想方设法搪塞你。如果你当场提出来,这个不符合项就不会产生,对他们也就没有认错的问题,沟通起来反而好说。作者: milighost 时间: 2009-10-30 13:14
是啊,有问题最好当场沟通清楚。不过现在也还来得及,因为开的是建议项。还是可以解释的,只要坐下来把大家可接受的方式谈清楚。作者: keyou 时间: 2009-10-31 09:50
这个问题也反映出UL的有些inspector是不合格的作者: jackshong 时间: 2009-10-31 16:10
謝謝大家的建議,我把和廣州UL&香港UL溝通的兩次結果都提交給當時的那個工廠審查員看,他回答是遵照香港UL的說法。 # h0 N$ @# e5 \1 \" w4 g6 z最后的做法是:附客户的工程图纸或者客户的工程图纸料号。% `0 O" r: {2 n* h
而這個做法,我想在出貨時的基本要求吧!